Talk:Intermezzo for the Left Hand (Palmgren, Selim)

Clearly a posthumously published work, with no assigned number. How do you recon we classify it according to catalog? BKhon 22:13, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Hrm. If it was posthumously published, instead of ca.1910 a few years after the believed date of composition, then hopefully it was published in the interval 1952-9, otherwise we don't have to classify it right now at all. (The plate number is not much help unfortunately.) Eric 22:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Re publisher: publisher was founded by Karl Fredrik Wasenius (1850-1920), a friend of Sibelius'. According to one source they engaged in publishing until 1907 and eventually became known as the publisher 'BIS'. Which suggests -if true- - since the publisher's name on the page is KF Wasenius, not Bis- that this publication is before 1908, not posthumous at all. Eric 22:55, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Interesting... according my sources this piece was published posthumously. Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter much then, BKhon 23:21, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
You might be right- hope not, (just because that 1952-1959 interval is not very wide yep:)) No mention of it that I can find on Worldcat but maybe I need to look for it with terms translated. or something. Eric 23:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

If you are using the Wikipedia entry for Palmgren's works (which I see is referenced on the main page for Palmgren), it's not completely accurate. It lists all his works without opus number as posthumous, even though only couple may have actually been so. I've been working on putting together a more detailed catalog of his works, but it's been difficult due to the way publishers regularly mixed together, and renamed many of his works (most likely for marketing purposes). My catalog is based on either actual scores that I have been able to attain, or reliable library records I can find online. There's too many uncertainies with it, especially with the "songs" referenced by T. Tomilla in the Wikipedia list, as those have been mangled by publishers more so than the piano works. Until I resolve those, I don't feel comfortable with publicly publishing it.

Eric, thanks for the information on Wasenius. Also, this work, according to ARSCA (the Finnish Arts Library system), was also published by Axel Lindgren, plate A.E.L. 857 (but no specific date attached). My impression is that Lindgren got first rights to publishing Palmgren's works until Palmgren went to the U.S. in the 1920's.

Evidence of 1898 composition date

The uploader of the score has mentioned that the piece may have been composed as early as 1898 rather than the commonly accepted 1906 date. Can the evidence be procured?